Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Swedish College of Engineering and Technology (Taxila)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. No prejudice to re-creation if reliable sources can be found. Any new article should go through AFC and be considerably less promotional than the current one. Randykitty (talk) 15:29, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Swedish College of Engineering and Technology (Taxila)[edit]

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advertising The Banner talk 02:45, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. - The ChampionMan 1234 02:55, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Engineering-related deletion discussions. - The ChampionMan 1234 02:55, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I struck a big swath of text in the article as a copyvio. This did away with most of the NPOV issues, so the subject should be evaluated on WP:N at this point. As the policy for educational institutions in this area is hazy at best, I would have abstained from a !vote. However, the fact that the college doesn't even exist yet, combined with the fact that I can't find any (English; if someone finds enough reliable Swedish RS's, I'll change my !vote) reliable sources to establish WP:GNG puts it over the top for me. Deadbeef 07:27, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:38, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:38, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment (revised from Keep). It's in Pakistan, not Sweden. There's mention of Swedish language sources above, but I think there are none, perhaps there are non=English sources in one or more of Pakistan's languages however. It's a college. If it is open, and not "upcoming", then it is to be Kept, as Wikipedia AFD standard for high schools and higher is that they are automatically deemed notable / kept. See wp:NSCHOOL. The article existed for a long time, for many years, and i think the college is open. So i voted Keep at first (but have revised).

However I am bit unclear on the relationship of this article for "Swedish College of Engineering and Technology (Taxila)" to the similar article topic of Swedish College of Engineering and Technology (Rahim Yar Khan). And there also is UET Taxila as a school, and as towns/cities there are Taxila, Wah Cantt (near to Taxila), and Rahim Yar Khan. The webpage at http://www.swedishryk.edu.pk/ documents well enough that the Rahim Yar Khan school is open. Including, for example, by various notes of events from March, April 2013 and since, in the colleges' events/updates webpage at http://www.swedishryk.edu.pk/updates.html. I edited the article a bit, may have introduced error, so am undoing my edit next. If it is a college though, it is an obvious Keep. --do ncr am 21:03, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to be in disagreement with WP:NSCHOOL, which is what I was referring to (and I think you meant to refer to). Can you explain how the school passes WP:NCORP or WP:GNG? Deadbeef 21:22, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, sorry, I came back and revised my comment, which was at first a Keep vote, not seeing your comment following mine. So I may have undermined the applicability of your comment/question about mine. Actually now I am not sure that the article should be kept or not. I probably won't comment further, will leave it to others to sort out the several schools and locations. Sorry for generating confusion. Out, --do ncr am 21:45, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In the article there is statement "Swedish College of Engineering & Technology traces its geneses to December 2009, when it started its operations in Wah Cantt and Rahim Yar khan.", i.e. there is assertion it was open in 2009 in both places. Wah Cantt is near Taxila, might be considered the Taxila campus. Rahim Yar Khan is more than 800 kilometers away, far to the south. Seems likely that the Taxila vs. Rahim Yar Khan schools are distinct enough to be separate schools and have separate articles, but I honestly am not clear on what is available. Over and out. --do ncr am 22:02, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Does appear to exist and as a degree-awarding institution should be kept per longstanding precedent and consensus. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:58, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Not again the Common Outcomes as an argument... The Banner talk 15:46, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - Not an argument, but an illustration of consensus. You should look that word up some time. It's how Wikipedia works and without an understanding of it you really shouldn't be using AfD. Also a bit rich from someone who thinks they can nominate an article for deletion with a single word! If it is advertising, that's easily overcome by an bit of editing. What we're here to discuss is the article's notability, not its content. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:02, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    - No, my friend, you should look up the word consensus. Shouting hard is no part of consensus, although it is one of the favourite tactics of the keep-the-school-crew. The Banner talk 17:39, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:07, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

DELETE Description reads: "The Swedish College of Engineering & Technology, Wah Cantt, is an upcoming college in the private sector surrounded by expanding industrial neighborhood...." So, does this place even exist yet? "Upcoming" implies it doesn't. And, given its totally disingenuous name (obviously not in Sweden), I can't help but being dragged toward the conclusion that its ulterior purpose is as a diploma mill for systematic H-1B visa fraud.--Раціональне анархіст (talk) 15:13, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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